Hannah: 0:44

Do you know how hard it is to?

Courtney: 0:46

sit properly in this I keep trying hard not to look up your muumuu. I'm sorry. I'm trying to sit, ladylike and it's a bit, she's not sitting like a lady. I'm looking straight up a Halloween-themed muumuu. Oh my God, so sorry. I look like I'm staring up at your laundry sign. That's why.

Rob: 1:02

Okay.

Hannah: 1:13

Hi, I'm Hannah and I'm Courtney. Join us as we delve into true crime, paranormal encounters and all things spooky. Grab your flashlight and get ready to wander into the darkness with us. This is Wicked Wanderings. Hi Courtney, Hi Hannah, Welcome to another episode of Wicked Wanderings. Ooh, quiet yelling.

Courtney: 1:54

I don't know, guys, I got some kind of sinus thing going on and I keep feeling like my mic doesn't sound right and I'm yelling into the microphone and it's yelling at me Quiet, yelling. This case Girl. We both composed an episode separately and we did not tell the other person at all what we were working on. So I really hope in some crazy freaky Friday shit we didn't come up with the same thing.

Hannah: 2:16

It is definitely freaky Friday shit and completely weird if that happened. There might be some editing, and I apologize, rob, my notes are all over the place.

Courtney: 2:23

She's not sorry, she's a mess, but she's a hot mess, ladies and gents. I'm a hot, sexy mess. She's a hot, sexy mess With my Halloween-themed mooloo.

Hannah: 2:31

Yes, trying to keep my legs closed, so Cordy isn't getting I keep getting flashed, but it's fine.

Courtney: 2:35

I'm a good sport about this, Okay picture it Oklahoma, april 1990.

Hannah: 2:42

Trying to do like a Golden Girls Sophia moment here. You know, the worst part is that I have a learning disability and I can't actually conceptualize or picture anything.

Courtney: 2:49

So you say Oklahoma and I'm like she tried everybody. She like looked up at the ceiling, like I'm also trying not to look up Hannah's moo-moo she put pants on. I'm like so self-conscious.

Hannah: 2:59

No, I like it. I like it, it's great.

Courtney: 3:02

I was just so happy to be back. I know life is chaotic and Rob's probably like son of a bitch. This is not exactly what I signed up for.

Hannah: 3:09

Well then, I kept feeling like I was bothering you about it, because every weekend you'd be like, oh, let me check what we're doing. And I felt like, oh my god, that's because my life is a clusterflop and I know I just feel like I bother you with it, but I'm glad you're here.

Courtney: 3:20

That's Hannah's trauma. That's a different episode. That's Her abandonment issues. I feel like we should make a button that says Courtney's talking about Hannah's abandonment issues again. I wish we could make it to a tally, anyways sorry, roberto.

Hannah: 3:34

So here we are, Oklahoma, april 1990. There's two or three guys in a truck and they're driving Right what's new in Oklahoma? And they see something on the side of the road and they decide to stop Because what they thought was debris like what is this? We're looking at right and they see a blonde woman lying there. So they do what any good citizen would do and they call an ambulance. So she gets picked up by the ambulance, she gets sent to the hospital, so she's alive.

Courtney: 4:04

She's alive okay, bring the lead, she's alive.

Hannah: 4:06

She's alive and they find out that her name is tonya hughes. They get a hold of her husband, clarence. He shows up and he gives some identifying information. But clarence is kind of weird the name clarence is kind of weird.

Hannah: 4:23

He's older, like older than than her, older than her come to find out she has a son, michael, and she's a stripper in tulsa. Okay, as they examine her, she's full of older bruises and they get the feeling in their gut that something is not right. Like these bruises are not from the incident, possible hit and run is really what it's come down okay. Okay, there's something else going on. Unfortunately she did pass and died. So the girls that were at the strip club that became came to know her really well. They wanted to find some of her family because obviously they didn't trust terrence to do that. So they find a number in the phone book, so obviously 1990 guys, and they call and say hey, like I'm so sorry, your daughter passed. And the woman on the line said what are you talking about? My daughter died 20 years ago. She was only 18 months old.

Hannah: 5:20

So they were like who the fuck did we just bury? Oh man, let's go back Fall 1989. She met one of her new friends at the strip club she's working at right, so we're a year before and they bonded and they were the babies of the group. She always saw Tanya reading. Tanya always wanted to learn. She was smart, she was sweet, she had this really young, innocent look about her which kind of goes with the strip club right.

Courtney: 5:49

Unfortunately, that's what guys want to see. It's icky, but yeah, I was kind of thinking it too. Of course she had her husband Clarence.

Hannah: 5:57

The friend met Clarence and her son Michael, who was two years old, and her son was her world. Her son was everything to her. She wanted to do everything with her son. So the friend's like, hey, like, hey, like, why don't we take michael to the park or let's go to the zoo? She's like I can't do that. Clearance would not let michael and tanya out of his sight like would not allow them to do anything but he let her work at the strip club.

Hannah: 6:21

That's interesting to me yes okay since they all changed together at the strip club. Right, they're changing outfits and whatever the friends saw the bruises, they saw the bruises on her ass. There's something else going on here. So one day, tanya confided in one of her friends that clarence took a life insurance policy out on her. So what does that tell us?

Courtney: 6:43

he's gonna kill her. He's gonna kill her. Too much true crime for us right, that was my first time.

Hannah: 6:48

Like oh, he's gonna kill her, sad. But yeah, april 25th 1990, clarence called the friend that kept coming to see her at the hospital and said tanya was in a hit and run in oklahoma city. This was a friend from the strip club and the friend's like I didn't know she was going out of town. Like what do you mean? What was she even doing in that area? That's when clarence is like she cannot have any visitors, she's in the icu and the friends like fuck that shit.

Hannah: 7:15

Like I'm gonna go see her because they were already skeptical about it right, and so apparently, when she went to go visit Tanya in the hospital before she passed, the nurse even said that they think there's foul play in this. Like this doesn't look like something that happened accidentally or I don't know, it just looked like foul play.

Courtney: 7:33

Well, it's also. It sounds like maybe this is just me being kind of not familiar with Oklahoma, but the way you describe it it seems like she's on this street and there's no clear indicator there's no parts that you've mentioned so far about there being any kind of car situation involved, so they're kind of just like assuming right based off of injuries on her body, I would imagine.

Hannah: 7:52

Right, okay she was only 20 years old, extremely young. So since they did not have info of who she really was, they just put tanya on her headstone. So the girls just made her headstone and she was buried.

Courtney: 8:07

So Clarence wasn't even involved in burial. It seems not from what I understand.

Hannah: 8:11

Okay, they were worried about Michael, her son, because apparently all of a sudden he wasn't talking. They ended up calling Child Protective Services and he ended up getting put in a foster home. The foster family had him for about four years and it sounds like he was very behavioral in the beginning. The people that placed him the Child Protective Services said, oh, he drinks Pepsi and he's on a bottle, and they're like what? Like this kid's two years old? No, no, no, no, no. So they tried to break a lot of habit and then he calmed down and stuff, but he was doing great, but dad kept trying to get him back.

Courtney: 8:44

So Clarence is the biological father? We assume at this point. We assume at this point yes.

Hannah: 8:50

So dad did have visits, but Michael hated it. He would hide underneath the piano at the foster family home and go just meet that mean man, that mean man, that mean man. He just wouldn't want to go. Poor baby. Child protective services called the foster family and said we need to prove paternity, because this is getting a little ridiculous.

Courtney: 9:08

He was not the father I'm so sorry I blew that one up for everybody. I feel like I'm already. He's not the father, you are not the father, so I mean that could be good news. Actually, it's definitely good news in this case.

Hannah: 9:19

So the foster family claims clarence is now stalking their house because they see this truck go by really really slow and this woman's like what is going on? So she calls Child Protective Services. And I was like what kind of car does Clarence drive? Oh, he drives this blue pickup. This is what he looks like. She's like he's driving by my house like really slow and creepily. September 12, 1994, clarence shows up at Michael's school, threatened the principal with a gun and forced him to help him get Michael from his classroom. Dear God, the three of them get into the principal's truck and he ordered him to drive down this dirt road. Clarence handcuffed the principal to a tree and duct taped his mouth and drove off with Michael. Tree and duct taped his mouth and drove off with michael. The principal was found and the fbi ends up getting involved and they see that clarence tried to collect on his wife's life insurance policy in 1990 but he gave a social security number that went back to a man named franklin floyd boy. Okay, his name was not clarence, everybody.

Courtney: 10:21

Surprise Franklin Floyd.

Hannah: 10:24

Things began to unfold and Floyd had a lot of aliases and Floyd had a prison history?

Courtney: 10:32

Oh, of course. What else would he be hiding underneath that?

Hannah: 10:35

1962, he abducted a girl four years old, raped her Ugh. 1963, he got put in jail for a robbery for 10 years. 1972 he was put in a halfway house. 1973 he attacked another female. He posted bail and never showed up to court and he'd been on the run for almost 20 years just changing his name once or maybe more than once yep, yep.

Courtney: 11:01

So and that would make sense, because if you're going to take out a life insurance policy on somebody, you have to use your own social security number and things. But like, even though his name was never, they must not have been married. Because how would they have been married if or she knew his real name? And God, this is this is fascinating.

Hannah: 11:21

You're asking all the right questions. I'm so happy to be back.

Courtney: 11:29

And they're going to get answered. Get answered, yes, I love when there's answers.

Hannah: 11:31

Mine doesn't have any, so of course this makes headline news right the fbi is involved. Now there's aliases. This is making and it's oklahoma, it's oklahoma and someone saw tanya's picture in this on the news and it ended up being this girl's mom and she's like, wait a minute, I recognize this child. Didn't you go to school with her honey? And she's like, oh my god, that's not tanya, that's sharon marshall.

Hannah: 11:58

She was my best friend in high school oh god so she ends up calling the fbi and she's like, hey, that was my high school best friend and I knew her as sharon marshall. She said that her friend was just gorgeous, like she would walk into a room. All the men would just fall in love with her. She was in rotc. She was in science club. She was in the gifted program. She wanted to be an aerospace engineer. She got accepted to georgia tech with a full scholarship. Like this girl was absolutely fucking brilliant. Such a heartbreak. Yeah, remember how, when the parents could take off full pages in the yearbook to be like, oh my gosh, I'm so proud of my baby girl.

Rob: 12:34

Yes.

Hannah: 12:35

Did your parents do that.

Rob: 12:36

No, I hid the ad.

Hannah: 12:39

Mine didn't either, but the dad took out a whole page for her in the yearbook to congratulate her on her getting into Georgia Tech. But he didn't choose like a baby photo. He chose this model photo and people thought it was strange, like inappropriate model, inappropriate.

Courtney: 12:55

Okay, Not like a senior portrait, Like inappropriate, Like why are you choosing this photo of your daughter? Okay, so it was definitely definitely like a sexualized kind of yeah okay, looking at it honestly, I thought it was I don't know.

Hannah: 13:07

I guess when you know the whole story, you're like, okay, that's a little weird, maybe fine for what we would also do now, maybe maybe, but then she ended up getting pregnant and her dad wouldn't let her leave or go to college.

Hannah: 13:20

He's like you're gonna give up this baby and you're gonna take care of me now and she ended up calling her best friend. She's like I can't go to georgia tech anymore and she's like what the fuck why? She's like I'm pregnant but I have to give up the baby and like, well, why don't you still go?

Courtney: 13:33

she's like, well, someone has to take care of daddy, and that they were moving to arizona was there something going on with her dad, or was he just kind of like no, now it's your turn. Oh god, I hate that.

Hannah: 13:47

I ask questions sometimes there's so many things I want to tell you, but it gets on full. Okay, I'm sorry I have a lot of questions. That's fine. I'm glad you have a lot of questions, because when I was going through this I was like what the fuck is going on?

Courtney: 13:58

I had like whiplash. I feel like you're like holding me back. Like later we'll get to it.

Hannah: 14:03

So the high school friend met with the fbi and told them her father, who ended up being Warren Marshall, because of course she was Sharon Marshall. The father was Warren Marshall this is another alias, so they ended up finding aliases for Sharon too. So are you following that part? Yeah, okay, they ended up taking these names off tombstones to get their aliases okay, this is bad, but I get why they did that.

Courtney: 14:34

And it made sense, because nobody else is gonna be like, hey, wait a minute, but I'm john smith. Because I mean, well, somebody else would say that surely about john smith, but not about other names I'm sure so.

Hannah: 14:44

Now we have a lot of gaps to fill in, right, right, filling in those gaps. After leaving high school they end up going to tampa, florida. When sharon was there, she ended up going to a very popular strip joint to find work. Oh god, they remember her being innocent, very baby doll looking.

Courtney: 15:03

God, you said he was older oh god, you said he was older.

Hannah: 15:08

No, very shy, and soon the other girls were aware of the weird relationship between her and her father. Yep, oh man. So one time Sharon was doing this specialty party I think they called it like the millionaire's club kind of party and one of the girls was like hey, you're going to make like $500,000 tonight, like easily, right? Apparently she was caught trying to do sexual favors for money near the bathrooms and they caught her like you can't do this Right. And she's like well, I was told I had to by my dad and he bought me condoms to do it.

Courtney: 15:43

What in God's?

Hannah: 15:44

name. So remember she's pregnant, right.

Courtney: 15:48

And it began to show, and this is when Michael was born, and she continues to work at the strip club.

Hannah: 15:56

So now it's Michael, sharon and Warren and they lived in a trailer park. They only had like one or two friends and this one girl that was like 15 from the trailer park that would help babysit once in a while.

Courtney: 16:08

Creepy also this one girl that was like 15, from the trailer park that would help babysit once in a while.

Hannah: 16:12

Creepy also, given what we know about this man. Yes, they had one friend named Cheryl who would go over several times a week and she ended up working at the strip club with Sharon. So she knew them, she was stylish, she was beautiful they say she was Italian with this beautiful black hair and she had a red Corvette. And she had a red corvette and she had all these dreams and she's like I want to be a model, I want to be in playboy. She thought working at the strip club because it was a very well-known one would be like a step to her getting to the fame that she wanted exposure and and somebody who was prominent someplace would see her.

Courtney: 16:44

Yeah, I get that, exactly.

Hannah: 16:45

I get that one of the girls found out that she was hanging out with sharon and her father at sharon's trailer and they were like I don't think you should be hanging out with it. Like there's something wrong with that man about that situation. Yeah, a video was seen of sharon and cheryl topless at the beach that clarence had recorded.

Courtney: 17:08

Cheryl claimed that Warren now I'm saying Clarence and Warren, sorry, there's so many aliases and I apologize- I think we all, just as the Wanderers, are assuming that when you say he, unless you're otherwise stating it, we're assuming that that's Clarence, who is Floyd. Yes.

Hannah: 17:24

Thank you I appreciate that.

Courtney: 17:26

That's kind of my brain Because I wrote a lot of names in here. But they're all Frank Floyd Right, they're all him.

Hannah: 17:32

So Cheryl claims that this awful douchebag man was going to help her make her a star. He was going to send this video to Playboy. He was going to help her get to fandom, oh God. But then he tried to have sex with her and she's like, no, thank you, of course, with her. And she's like, uh, no, thank you, of course. A switch was flipped. She ended up showing up at the strip club with bruises and strangulation marks on her and her friends were like what happened? And she explained to him like you cannot be around this man anymore.

Courtney: 18:00

This guy is bad news and I'm shocked that he actually let her get away with all these aliases and things he's working. It makes you really think about it, because I just would have assumed he would have just like and been done with it. Oh damn.

Hannah: 18:14

Soon after that happened, cheryl and Warren left with Michael, and the only reason they knew they left she left was because she never showed up for work again.

Courtney: 18:24

So he just took the kid, and well, took both of the kids, I guess, and just split with them.

Hannah: 18:29

I'm sorry, not Cheryl. Sharon and Warren Excuse me. Sharon and Floyd.

Courtney: 18:34

Sharon and whatever this guy's name is Wow. Okay, but also to know Cheryl, the friend was never seen again, so he did kill her and then left and then I'm assuming got new names for everybody.

Rob: 18:48

Again I got this guy's number already dialed in.

Hannah: 18:54

Sorry where do we go with this? When the best friend from high school saw her on the tv and was like oh my god, that's my best friend. She remembers how her parents reacted to her father like this guy's a creep, I don't want you anywhere near their house. The friend was like please, I want to sleep over, I want to be with my friend, the mom was like fine, like, oh, you can sleep over.

Hannah: 19:22

So they were getting dressed one day together in sharon's house and she sees all this sexy lingerie and she's like, oh my god, where did you get all this beautiful stuff? She's like, oh, daddy buys it for me.

Courtney: 19:34

The fact that she calls him daddy also.

Hannah: 19:36

Yes, I was like she's like okay, that's kind of a weird thing for your father to buy. She's like oh, I just keep it because it's pretty. Another weird thing that she remembers about their house is that there was never any doors, there was only, like these, curtains. Open concept yeah right. So, you can't hide these curtains that kept the door closed, as teenage girls do. They were getting dressed, they were getting ready for bed, or whatever they were doing Right and they do that together.

Hannah: 20:00

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, girls do that. All of a sudden he walks in with a gun oh gosh. And screams what are you all doing?

Courtney: 20:11

And, of course, the friend's like trying to grab anything she can oh crap, he's got a gun.

Hannah: 20:14

Yeah, she's like trying to cover herself. She feels immodest. This guy starts fucking laughing like a fucking banshee, scaring the crap out of the girls, and he'll say I'll be back. So they get dressed and shortly after, after he comes back in with his gun and tells the friend, lay on the ground and put a pillow over your head, and he ends up raping sharon with her in the room okay, so some kind of like voyeurism.

Courtney: 20:40

A pillow was it like a suppressed memory for this friend because they were in high school? You said they were high school best friends, so she didn't think I should go home and say, hey, y'all, she said afterwards.

Hannah: 20:51

They were silent. The rest of the night they went to sleep and the next morning sharon just ended up holding her and she's like I'm okay, you're okay, that's just how daddy is, just forget about it. And the friend never said a word about it. Oh my gosh, yeah. And so the friend lived with that trauma and then of course, I'm sure she was like should I have?

Courtney: 21:14

said anything, right Ugh.

Hannah: 21:16

But when you're 17, 18, I don't know Like I mean.

Courtney: 21:18

It's also just very interesting, Like not interesting in an entertaining way Interesting in a psychological way that he has some kind of possession over his own child, where, like he seems to just prefer his own child over everybody except cheryl.

Hannah: 21:34

Yeah, the friend, right, right right so I know I'm jumping back from, like the past, to the future, but here we are in the future again and the fbi is doing interviews and they're looking at this douche canoes history and they realize something sharon died when she was 20, right, she was found on the side of the road right near her 20th birthday. When she died, he could not have been the father, because he was incarcerated from 1963 to 1972. Oh so who was he?

Courtney: 22:07

Oh God, yeah, and how did she end up thinking that that was her?

Hannah: 22:12

father and where the fuck was michael right. Okay, so the fbi said let's contact every state we know this guy has been to with an alias right everywhere. I think it was like kentucky and probably a lot homa in florida, like let's contact these states and alert them of all the aliases he's had, because he's going to need a license. We know he's going to renew one. Sure enough, louisville, kentucky, comes up and he was arrested. But no Michael. He claimed he left Michael with a rich person. Which FBI is like? This is fucking bullshit.

Courtney: 22:46

You just like walked up to a person and went hey, you look rich, you want a kid.

Hannah: 22:49

Yeah, you want a kid. And they said yeah, which is still bullshit, Bullshit. You know what this motherfucker wanted to do? This was oh man, oh man.

Courtney: 22:59

I don't know if I'm ready for this.

Hannah: 23:02

No, it's just, he wanted to defend himself in court. Why do they always want to do that, I'm sorry? So he wanted a hybrid model, which reminds me of several other cases, and I'm gonna say it oh man, reminds me of fucking bundy. We've talked about other cases where these motherfuckers are so narcissistic that they think they can defend they think they can defend themselves, they think they can question people in their defense.

Courtney: 23:26

It just wow I don't People always want to defend themselves, and it doesn't make any sense to me unless they want to get put away for it. Do you think at a certain point they're like I'm going to control this by literally controlling the entire thing?

Hannah: 23:41

I think so, but it's a narcissistic way of thinking.

Courtney: 23:45

I just feel like if I I'm always torn because I think if I was, if I was was a narcissist, wouldn't I want to keep going out and being able to live my life the way that benefits me? And wouldn't that mean giving a professional the chance? I think it's because we're not narcissists true plus, it sounds like he's been behind bars several times, so maybe he's had bad experiences with public defenders and things like that, because obviously he was going to get a public defender and that's where we're going to leave it for now.

Rob: 24:08

Hannah just walked us through a truly gruesome and unsettling part of this story, but we're not done yet. There's more to come and, trust me, the second half is just as intense, if not more. This is a two-part episode, so be sure to join us next week for the conclusion. You won't want to miss how this story unfolds. In the meantime, make sure to subscribe to Wicked Wanderings wherever you get your podcasts and follow us on all social media platforms to stay up to date on new episodes, behind the scenes content and more. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.

Hannah: 24:42

Thanks for listening. Today, wicked Wanderings is hosted by me, hannah and co-hosted by me, courtney, and it's produced by Rob Fitzpatrick. Music by Sasha M. If you enjoyed today's episode, don't forget to leave a rating and review and be sure to follow on all socials. You can find the links down in the show notes. If you're looking for some really cozy t-shirts or hoodies, head over to the merch store. Thank you for being a part of the Wicked Wanderings community. We appreciate every one of you.